Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK
Author: Gene Poon
Date: 10-13-2011 - 16:37

Mark Meoff Wrote:
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> After the crash and before authorities got there,
> the engineers on 717 got off their train and got
> up in the cab of train 14 to "get their stories
> straight". In other words, they were trying to
> coerce the engineer on 14 to help them minimize
> the fallout. I really don't see how the engineer
> on 14 could help them at all, he didn't know
> anything was wrong until 717 came crashing into
> him.

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TWO engineers on 717? Both on duty? One reason would be if one were an RFE or official...and that would likely preclude "cooking their stories." Another would be if one engineer was unqualified, a student making a qualifying trip.



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  Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Jon 10-12-2011 - 22:38
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Jon 10-12-2011 - 22:45
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Don 10-12-2011 - 23:20
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK EOM674A 10-12-2011 - 23:41
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Jon 10-13-2011 - 00:04
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mark Meoff 10-13-2011 - 00:22
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK stash 10-13-2011 - 00:27
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Tie Plate 10-13-2011 - 01:22
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Gene Poon 10-13-2011 - 09:23
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Espee99 10-13-2011 - 11:47
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-13-2011 - 13:55
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK EOM674A 10-13-2011 - 13:55
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Hannibal Katt 10-13-2011 - 15:49
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Dr Zarkoff 10-13-2011 - 15:53
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Gene Poon 10-13-2011 - 16:20
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mark Meoff 10-13-2011 - 16:30
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Gene Poon 10-13-2011 - 16:37
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-13-2011 - 16:42
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK WAF 10-13-2011 - 17:44
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Dr Zarkoff 10-13-2011 - 18:07
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Outsider 10-13-2011 - 18:25
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Cosmo 10-13-2011 - 18:36
  Re: positive train control Tony 10-13-2011 - 19:05
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-13-2011 - 19:13
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 13:37
  Re: positive train control Jascha 10-14-2011 - 14:32
  Re: positive train control OldPoleBurner 10-14-2011 - 16:34
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 20:36
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-14-2011 - 21:19
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 21:50
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 23:18
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-15-2011 - 10:19
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-15-2011 - 12:57
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-15-2011 - 14:19
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-15-2011 - 14:31
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-15-2011 - 16:40
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-15-2011 - 17:00
  Re: positive train control Time Span 10-16-2011 - 05:55
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-16-2011 - 10:33
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-16-2011 - 13:54
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-16-2011 - 16:59
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 18:25
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 19:26
  Re: positive train control Mark Meoff 10-14-2011 - 23:25
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-14-2011 - 17:34
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mark Meoff 10-13-2011 - 19:44
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK LKK 10-13-2011 - 22:22
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-13-2011 - 22:28
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK LKK 10-13-2011 - 22:54
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 09:54
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 14:58
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Eric Rasmussen 10-14-2011 - 16:46
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK John Horren 10-15-2011 - 09:12
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Espee99 10-14-2011 - 06:29
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Outsider 10-14-2011 - 05:17
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK NNN 10-14-2011 - 01:52
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 05:52
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mitch 10-14-2011 - 06:51
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Cosmo 10-14-2011 - 08:00
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Jesse 10-14-2011 - 08:31
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 11:13
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK theconductor 10-15-2011 - 10:38
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK SP5103 10-14-2011 - 09:58
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mark Meoff 10-14-2011 - 16:54
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Dr Zarkoff 10-14-2011 - 17:42
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Herbert B 10-15-2011 - 09:18
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Spanky 10-22-2011 - 14:04
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Kanra 10-14-2011 - 22:07
  Re:signal location question Severe Duty 10-15-2011 - 01:30
  Re: Re:signal location question OPRRMS 10-15-2011 - 02:29
  Re: Re:signal location question OldPoleBurner 10-15-2011 - 21:31
  Re: Re:signal location question OPRRMS 10-15-2011 - 22:35
  Re: Re:signal location question SP5103 10-16-2011 - 21:33
  Re: Re:signal location question theconductor 10-16-2011 - 22:39
  MSM MTM 10-15-2011 - 12:09
  Re: MSM Dr Zarkoff 10-15-2011 - 16:42
  Re: MSM MTM 10-15-2011 - 20:27


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