Re: positive train control
Author: OldPoleBurner
Date: 10-14-2011 - 16:34

PTS could have prevented it - more or less (assuming we ever get PTS to work right 100% of the time). Up until the point where the calculated braking distance (at whatever speed) exceeds the distance remaining to the target point (the restricting signal), PTS would have allowed the train to proceed being governed by the previous signal.

But as soon as the calculated braking point was reached (or closely approached), either the engineer stops applies full braking at that point, or the PTS will - stopping the train BEFORE the signal is passed. That is because there is still adequate braking distance to the signal to do so.

However, I said "more or less", because of what can happen next. After the enforced stop at a restricting signal (or a non-absolute), the PTS must then permit a restricted speed movement into the already occupied block ahead; simply because that is what the aspect is conveying.

This is where even PTS cannot help much. It has no means to tell whether the crew actually observed switch positions or not - nor can it tell if the crew has taken note of a train or obstruction ahead. Worse yet, PTS cannot do these things for the crew anyway, as no means to reliably detect the exact position of any parked (or unequipped) vehicle has ever been invented. Moreover, a couple-up move under a restricted aspect must be allowed in any event. And that can still lead to a "Hard Couple!"

So PTS will be of no help whatsoever when running on a restricting aspect, except for the initial stop and proceed part of it.

OPB



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  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Don 10-12-2011 - 23:20
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK EOM674A 10-12-2011 - 23:41
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Jon 10-13-2011 - 00:04
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mark Meoff 10-13-2011 - 00:22
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK stash 10-13-2011 - 00:27
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Tie Plate 10-13-2011 - 01:22
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Gene Poon 10-13-2011 - 09:23
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Espee99 10-13-2011 - 11:47
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-13-2011 - 13:55
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK EOM674A 10-13-2011 - 13:55
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Hannibal Katt 10-13-2011 - 15:49
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Dr Zarkoff 10-13-2011 - 15:53
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Gene Poon 10-13-2011 - 16:20
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mark Meoff 10-13-2011 - 16:30
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Gene Poon 10-13-2011 - 16:37
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-13-2011 - 16:42
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK WAF 10-13-2011 - 17:44
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Dr Zarkoff 10-13-2011 - 18:07
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Outsider 10-13-2011 - 18:25
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Cosmo 10-13-2011 - 18:36
  Re: positive train control Tony 10-13-2011 - 19:05
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-13-2011 - 19:13
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 13:37
  Re: positive train control Jascha 10-14-2011 - 14:32
  Re: positive train control OldPoleBurner 10-14-2011 - 16:34
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 20:36
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-14-2011 - 21:19
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 21:50
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 23:18
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-15-2011 - 10:19
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-15-2011 - 12:57
  Re: positive train control COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-15-2011 - 14:19
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-15-2011 - 14:31
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-15-2011 - 16:40
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-15-2011 - 17:00
  Re: positive train control Time Span 10-16-2011 - 05:55
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-16-2011 - 10:33
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-16-2011 - 13:54
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-16-2011 - 16:59
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 18:25
  Re: positive train control OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 19:26
  Re: positive train control Mark Meoff 10-14-2011 - 23:25
  Re: positive train control Dr Zarkoff 10-14-2011 - 17:34
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mark Meoff 10-13-2011 - 19:44
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK LKK 10-13-2011 - 22:22
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-13-2011 - 22:28
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK LKK 10-13-2011 - 22:54
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 09:54
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK OPRRMS 10-14-2011 - 14:58
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Eric Rasmussen 10-14-2011 - 16:46
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK John Horren 10-15-2011 - 09:12
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Espee99 10-14-2011 - 06:29
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Outsider 10-14-2011 - 05:17
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK NNN 10-14-2011 - 01:52
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 05:52
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mitch 10-14-2011 - 06:51
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Cosmo 10-14-2011 - 08:00
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Jesse 10-14-2011 - 08:31
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK COLLEX AKA COLLISION EXPERT 10-14-2011 - 11:13
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK theconductor 10-15-2011 - 10:38
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK SP5103 10-14-2011 - 09:58
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Mark Meoff 10-14-2011 - 16:54
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Dr Zarkoff 10-14-2011 - 17:42
  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Herbert B 10-15-2011 - 09:18
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  Re: Head-on 2 Amtraks at OAK Kanra 10-14-2011 - 22:07
  Re:signal location question Severe Duty 10-15-2011 - 01:30
  Re: Re:signal location question OPRRMS 10-15-2011 - 02:29
  Re: Re:signal location question OldPoleBurner 10-15-2011 - 21:31
  Re: Re:signal location question OPRRMS 10-15-2011 - 22:35
  Re: Re:signal location question SP5103 10-16-2011 - 21:33
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  MSM MTM 10-15-2011 - 12:09
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