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Re: Eureka-Redding Rail Is A Pipe Dream
Author: BOB2
Date: 09-28-2012 - 09:38
Through the Shasta Trinity Forest, not necessarily, there are better crossings to the south, aren't there? This is a pipe dream simply because it makes absolutely no operational or economic sense.........
The reasons that this most likely won't be built, is because Eureka is a very difficult port to enter and leave with large coal ships, with severe tieds and weather impacts much of the year, miles from any major coal deposits, with lousy road connections, and no current or cost effective rail connections that would make sense for unit train coal export operations, including this proposed route.
The purported rationale for such a railroad would be significant volumes of Asian bound coal exports. Frankly, there is existing and unused capacity for this at a number of our existing west coast ports, and better locations for new facilities in much larger all weather bays and estuaries like Puget sound, the San Francisco Bay complex, the Oregon Coast ports. And, all of these already have existing or recently restored rail services which could be upgraded at a much lower cost.
The connection at Redding would be to do what? Where iss this coal coming from? Is the UP going to restore the Modoc and the McCloud as a connection via Redding to Wyoming and Utah coal?
I'm sure BNSF is going to haul coal from where that they would normally take it for bulk loading Portland or Seattle, and go hundreds of extra miles on mountain terrain to deliver it to Eureka.... If this really is the plan, then please let me know, so I can dump my Bershire Hathaway, before the market dicovers that the management is crazy....
Pipe dream? Definitely, and a lot more so than my predictions for the coming astay of the terminally flawed CHSRA EIS/EIR from Coalinga to Oildale, and the rush to reprogram those funds to our real passenger needs in California?
Hey "Sistah" Bob R-Go have a Merlot-and chill dude, TGIF, and you've got a real steam engine in town, to boot!
Bob-TRAC will get more out of a scenario which reprograms the HSIPR funds to projects that the locals actually want and need. So even a good conservatives like you will get at least some local control and maybe even some local value added, which taxpayers haven't got from the HSR fiasco, yet.... And, that should make you at least a little less bummed, right? EGBOK!
The reasons that this most likely won't be built, is because Eureka is a very difficult port to enter and leave with large coal ships, with severe tieds and weather impacts much of the year, miles from any major coal deposits, with lousy road connections, and no current or cost effective rail connections that would make sense for unit train coal export operations, including this proposed route.
The purported rationale for such a railroad would be significant volumes of Asian bound coal exports. Frankly, there is existing and unused capacity for this at a number of our existing west coast ports, and better locations for new facilities in much larger all weather bays and estuaries like Puget sound, the San Francisco Bay complex, the Oregon Coast ports. And, all of these already have existing or recently restored rail services which could be upgraded at a much lower cost.
The connection at Redding would be to do what? Where iss this coal coming from? Is the UP going to restore the Modoc and the McCloud as a connection via Redding to Wyoming and Utah coal?
I'm sure BNSF is going to haul coal from where that they would normally take it for bulk loading Portland or Seattle, and go hundreds of extra miles on mountain terrain to deliver it to Eureka.... If this really is the plan, then please let me know, so I can dump my Bershire Hathaway, before the market dicovers that the management is crazy....
Pipe dream? Definitely, and a lot more so than my predictions for the coming astay of the terminally flawed CHSRA EIS/EIR from Coalinga to Oildale, and the rush to reprogram those funds to our real passenger needs in California?
Hey "Sistah" Bob R-Go have a Merlot-and chill dude, TGIF, and you've got a real steam engine in town, to boot!
Bob-TRAC will get more out of a scenario which reprograms the HSIPR funds to projects that the locals actually want and need. So even a good conservatives like you will get at least some local control and maybe even some local value added, which taxpayers haven't got from the HSR fiasco, yet.... And, that should make you at least a little less bummed, right? EGBOK!
