Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy
Author: david vartanoff
Date: 03-27-2016 - 11:16

of course, you are free to disbelieve ANY history. Let me however suggest some documentable facts. 1.SP paid for the SRI study of the economics of passenger service which basically said it is structurally unprofitable. 2.as to SP and Bechtel connections, all one need do is look at SP Company Annual reports from the era when the guage choice was made. Steven D, and Steven D Jr were members of SP's BOD--senior was Chairman. conspiracy no, conflict of interest? obvious unless you are a defense lawyer. 3. SP was so desperate to get rid of passenger service on the Peninsula that they offered to buy vans for every rider--as reported at the time in the Chronicle in trade for abandonnment. The jokeis that the freight business on that line today doesn't cover costs.
We are lucky that the stripping of the assets "hidden" in the holding company as a result of the SP-SF merger breakdown left the RR so broke that they sold the Peninsula ROW to raise cash. Unless,ofcourse, if one doesn't like the massive success of current Caltrain service annually setting ridership records.

As to BART wanting to take over everything, that certainly was the attitude for years, aided and abetted by MTC. The "reprogramming" of Dumbarton funding, $91 million IIRC, to cover BA RT cost overruns on the incredibly overpriced and poorly designed SFO extension is, again, an historical fact although interpretation is subject to one's belief systems.

So, if you don't like recitation of history, so be it. You help us repeat the mistakes.



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  Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology synonymouse 03-26-2016 - 10:21
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology WhattaJoke 03-26-2016 - 10:56
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology synonymouse 03-26-2016 - 11:05
  ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy crmeatball 03-26-2016 - 12:53
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy HUTCH 7.62 03-26-2016 - 13:58
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy fkrock 03-26-2016 - 16:36
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy mook 03-26-2016 - 17:22
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy mook 03-26-2016 - 17:24
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy Edward 03-26-2016 - 16:36
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy T.J. 03-26-2016 - 19:01
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy david vartanoff 03-27-2016 - 11:16
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy mook 03-27-2016 - 13:49
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy clipper841 03-26-2016 - 16:56
  Re: ENOUGH!!!! Its not a conspiracy T.J. 03-26-2016 - 19:47
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology clipper841 03-26-2016 - 16:45
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology synonymouse 03-26-2016 - 18:16
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology USA 03-26-2016 - 19:14
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Sumotuwe 03-26-2016 - 19:37
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology synonymouse 03-26-2016 - 19:59
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Commenter 03-26-2016 - 22:50
  BART Technology Ed Workman 03-27-2016 - 09:07
  Re: BART Technology mook 03-27-2016 - 13:53
  Re: BART Technology mook 03-27-2016 - 13:54
  Re: BART Technology Ed Workman 03-28-2016 - 09:39
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology fkrock 03-27-2016 - 09:20
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Ed Workman 03-27-2016 - 11:18
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology synonymouse 03-27-2016 - 11:31
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Commenter 03-27-2016 - 15:10
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology david vartanoff 03-27-2016 - 23:04
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology fkrock 03-28-2016 - 09:56
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Dr Zarkoff 03-28-2016 - 11:14
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Ken Shattock (KRK) 03-28-2016 - 18:54
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Dr Zarkoff 03-28-2016 - 21:07
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology fkrock 03-29-2016 - 09:04
  CAr Weights Ed Workman 03-29-2016 - 18:32
  Re: CAr Weights Ken Shattock (KRK) 03-29-2016 - 19:55
  Re: CAr Weights Ed Workman 03-30-2016 - 12:10
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Max Wyss 03-28-2016 - 01:56
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology mook 03-28-2016 - 09:11
  Re: Half-a**ed-article on the errors of BART Technology Max Wyss 03-28-2016 - 13:05


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