Re: "Rail energy storage"
Author: mook
Date: 04-22-2016 - 18:02

Nuke and geothermal are base-load production, much like the coal-fired steam plants elsewhere in the country. They are that way for exactly the reason you describe - they can't change output significantly in a short period of time. So they can't be easily or cheaply put on standby when solar in CA makes a large dent in the demand curve (when the sun's out, especially in the desert, where the big solar plants are). Wind likewise, though more variable (CA doesn't have the nearly constant wind over large areas found in West Texas or the Dakotas; it's more localized and varies greatly over the course of the day). Look at the CalISO's charts for examples: [www.caiso.com]

The funny railroad for power storage has been discussed here before. In principle, it should work, but won't store even nearly as much power as pumped hydro (or deliver it for as long a period) unless you have a whole bunch of them. OTOH, as noted elsewhere, there ain't much water in the desert, so this might just be a useful scheme. Emphasize MIGHT. And for safety reasons (Caution: Automatic Train May Start At Any Time!) it almost certainly will be well-isolated from public access - but what about the tortoises?



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  "Rail energy storage" newsboy 04-21-2016 - 18:22
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Edward 04-21-2016 - 19:05
  Re: "Rail energy storage" An Observer 04-22-2016 - 08:42
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Ba-Woosh! 04-22-2016 - 09:45
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Graham Buxton 04-22-2016 - 10:54
  Re: "Rail energy storage" mook 04-22-2016 - 11:49
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Peak KWH pricing? BOB2 04-22-2016 - 12:28
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Peak KWH pricing? mook 04-22-2016 - 18:11
  Re: "Regenerative braking,maybe Max has an answer. BOB2 04-22-2016 - 21:20
  Re: "Regenerative braking,maybe Max has an answer. Max Wyss 04-23-2016 - 02:08
  Re: "Regenerative braking,maybe Max has an answer. mook 04-23-2016 - 08:58
  Re: "Regenerative braking,maybe Max has an answer. Max Wyss 04-23-2016 - 15:27
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Ba-Woosh! 04-22-2016 - 12:35
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Tony Johnson 04-22-2016 - 14:38
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Edward 04-22-2016 - 15:26
  Re: "Rail energy storage" mook 04-22-2016 - 18:02
  Re: "Rail energy storage" - Question for BOB2 George Andrews 04-23-2016 - 09:21
  Re: "Rail energy storage" - Question for BOB2 BOB2 04-23-2016 - 10:01
  Re: "Rail energy storage" - Question for BOB2 mook 04-23-2016 - 10:53
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Batteries? BOB2 04-23-2016 - 11:01
  Re: "Rail energy storage" Batteries? mook 04-23-2016 - 12:42


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