Re: Moguls as pullers
Author: Tom Moungovan
Date: 03-23-2009 - 19:15

George Andrews Wrote:
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> I recall reading in one of Signor's books a
> reference to Espee Moguls as being called " A
> Valley Mallet" ( pronounced maal-EE in true RR
> fashion). The name referred to the fact that they
> could pull the same tonnage train down the San
> Joaquin Valley, that a cab forward ( i.e.-maal-EE
> )could haul over Donner or Tehachapi. Of course
> there are several errors contained above;
> virtually all cab forwards were, I believe, '
> simple ' articulateds that did not use the same
> steam twice, and virtually all Espee freights
> required helpers ' over the hill'. Still, it shows
> the respect Espee Engineers showed these
> locomotives.
> Question: Didn't the light axle loadings of the
> Mogul also contribute to their longevity, for use
> on light rail branch lines ??? The Friant branch &
> Sunset Railway come to mind.

Yes George, both of these branches used steam well into 1956. Stan Kistler told me of
one Mogul used on the Sunset Ry. as late as December of that year. Your point about the
lighter axle loading is well taken and that, along with their large drivers, contributed
to their long life on the SP.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Drew Jacksich 03-22-2009 - 00:27
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Tom Moungovan 03-22-2009 - 07:12
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Freericks 03-22-2009 - 09:13
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Sam Reeves 03-22-2009 - 13:38
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Tom Moungovan 03-22-2009 - 14:48
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Rich Hunn 03-22-2009 - 15:45
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Tom Moungovan 03-22-2009 - 19:11
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Alfred Doten 03-23-2009 - 09:37
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG George Manley 03-22-2009 - 17:28
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Drew Jacksich 03-22-2009 - 16:31
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG David Dewey 03-22-2009 - 23:05
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG J Mann 03-23-2009 - 08:06
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Tom Moungovan 03-23-2009 - 10:46
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Ken Shattock (KRK) 03-23-2009 - 12:33
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Jerry Hamilton 03-23-2009 - 09:17
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Rich Hunn 03-23-2009 - 15:19
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Ken Shattock (KRK) 03-23-2009 - 16:03
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Rich Hunn 03-23-2009 - 16:17
  Re: Moguls as pullers Tom Moungovan 03-23-2009 - 17:30
  Re: Moguls as pullers George Andrews 03-23-2009 - 18:56
  Re: Moguls as pullers Tom Moungovan 03-23-2009 - 19:15
  Re: Moguls as pullers Rich Hunn 03-23-2009 - 19:16
  Re: Moguls as pullers Larry 03-23-2009 - 19:44
  Re: Moguls as pullers Robby Peartree 03-26-2009 - 18:30
  Re: Moguls as pullers Tom Moungovan 03-26-2009 - 19:14
  SP 3420 Robby Peartree 03-26-2009 - 21:05
  Re: Southern Pacific 2-6-0 #1744 on the SL&RG Tom Moungovan 03-23-2009 - 19:33


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