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Re: California Park Hill tunnel rehab
Author: Dr Zarkoff
Date: 08-31-2009 - 21:13
>Maybe your trying to hard Doc. All of the NWP tunnels are numbered.Some are named some not . Tunnel No.4 for instance is called Porto Suello tunnel.
You've descended to the same level as that earlier Yuba Pass/Yuba Gap discussion re the SP's proper name for the location (which was Yuba Pass). If one is describing these tunnels in NWP terms, the NWP being a subsidiary of the SP, the tunnels are numbered. Before this thread, I've never heard of the "California Park Hill Tunnel" name, although I have heard "Greenbrae Tunnel" or some variation thereon for decades (even from Harre Demoro and Vernon Sappers). These names are "slang" in the sense that they aren't NWP designations.
Occasionally RR employees will refer to a tunnel using a name, but this doesn't make it "official". Oleum Tunnel on the Cal-P is technically "Tunnel 1". Even though I've been running trains there for over 35 years, I've never heard it refferred to by SP employees as anything other than "Oleum Tunnel". However, the roadmaster's charts have always showed it as "Tunnel #1, which means that this is the SP's (and UP's) official name for it. Tunnel #2 was known as "Selby Tunnel", but it's long gone.
The problem is that if you refer to this tunnel by the "California Park Hill tunnel" name and others use the Greenbrae name, rather than "NWP tunnel #3", then people are going to get confused.
You've descended to the same level as that earlier Yuba Pass/Yuba Gap discussion re the SP's proper name for the location (which was Yuba Pass). If one is describing these tunnels in NWP terms, the NWP being a subsidiary of the SP, the tunnels are numbered. Before this thread, I've never heard of the "California Park Hill Tunnel" name, although I have heard "Greenbrae Tunnel" or some variation thereon for decades (even from Harre Demoro and Vernon Sappers). These names are "slang" in the sense that they aren't NWP designations.
Occasionally RR employees will refer to a tunnel using a name, but this doesn't make it "official". Oleum Tunnel on the Cal-P is technically "Tunnel 1". Even though I've been running trains there for over 35 years, I've never heard it refferred to by SP employees as anything other than "Oleum Tunnel". However, the roadmaster's charts have always showed it as "Tunnel #1, which means that this is the SP's (and UP's) official name for it. Tunnel #2 was known as "Selby Tunnel", but it's long gone.
The problem is that if you refer to this tunnel by the "California Park Hill tunnel" name and others use the Greenbrae name, rather than "NWP tunnel #3", then people are going to get confused.
