Re: Retainers
Author: SP5103
Date: 03-22-2012 - 19:59

The basic formula is 20# per ton per per cent of grade with curves and rolling resistance added (uphill) or subtracted (downhill). So Saluda at close to a 5% average grade would require around double the braking effort compared to a common heavy grade of 2.2%.

I think Sierra has some 4% out between Standard and Jamestown, but not sure if they are running lumber. Amador Central probably used retainers, maybe Camino Placerville & Lake Tahoe. We never used retainers at Tillamook when I was there, but there are a few times when they doubled the hill and later were running rock for Carban it probably would have been a good idea. I used to see UP set retainers between Smith's Ferry and Banks, but IN&P doesn't have any traffic or trains on the line now.

There was also a system called "automatic retainers". I would guess it probably was just a straight-air over automatic system that dates way back. I know Westside used it. DM&IR and IIRC Santa Fe's York Canyon Coal train use/used automatic retainers. The engines and cars have to be equipped with an additional brake line.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Retainers Mike Stimpson 03-22-2012 - 09:14
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-22-2012 - 10:08
  Re: Retainers ES 03-22-2012 - 11:52
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-22-2012 - 12:12
  Re: Retainers Severe Duty 03-22-2012 - 12:19
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-22-2012 - 12:31
  Re: Road Foremen Severe Duty 03-22-2012 - 12:39
  Re: Retainers Dr Zarkoff 03-22-2012 - 15:57
  Re: Retainers Severe Duty 03-22-2012 - 12:14
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-22-2012 - 12:22
  Re: Retainers <\0/> 03-22-2012 - 13:14
  Re: Retainers Rich Hunn 03-22-2012 - 14:52
  Re: Retainers George Andrews 03-22-2012 - 18:52
  Re: Retainers Graham Buxton 03-22-2012 - 19:29
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-22-2012 - 19:59
  Re: Retainers Dr Zarkoff 03-22-2012 - 21:42
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-22-2012 - 22:21
  Re: Retainers Craig Tambo 03-22-2012 - 21:57
  Re: Retainers Shortline Sammie 03-23-2012 - 07:42
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-23-2012 - 08:23
  Re: Retainers Dr Zarkoff 03-23-2012 - 10:57
  Re: Retainers OPRRMS 03-23-2012 - 13:36
  Re: Retainers J.B.Bane 03-23-2012 - 15:23
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-23-2012 - 19:28
  Re: Retainers SP5103 03-23-2012 - 18:11


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