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11-25-2013 - 12:25
Rich Hunn
I believe the subsidiary name was San Diego and Arizona Eastern, also it's present name.
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11-25-2013 - 11:56
BOB2
San Diego Arizona and Eastern-SP subsidiary.
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11-25-2013 - 10:04
Short Line Guy
What you may be forgetting is the access railroads (especially short lines) have to public capital, i.e., grants. The Carizzo Gorge line could qualify for $10 million or more in federal TIGER grants.
Forum: Discussion
11-25-2013 - 09:44
Scott Schiechl
Maybe I'm just ignorant but is it "SD&AE" or "SDA&E"?
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11-25-2013 - 08:25
BOB2
I guess that trains of 30-40 cars per day could be "shown" to "justify" the "bare bones" and extremely optimistic $30 million expenditure, but that would be very iffy, and I would consider any such sp
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11-25-2013 - 07:45
Rich Hunn
Again, I refer back to the cab ride video. The one striking tunnel is so close that it's a wonder a TOFC car ever went through it. I bring that up and in regard to SP3878's question on 30 car trains
Forum: Discussion
11-24-2013 - 17:49
SP3878
I saw a videotaped interview with one of the previous investors who wanted to reopen the line. He mentioned the obvious challenges, i.e. tunnel and bridge work, rockslides, etc. I'm not certain he ful
Forum: Discussion
11-24-2013 - 11:13
BOB2
These studies are perennial (and I am perfectly willing to do them for folks at my fully allocated hourly rate), And, this one is kind of like proposals for the full restoration of the NWP to Eureka,
Forum: Discussion
11-24-2013 - 10:15
mook
Just look at the line in Google and in various publications/articles. It strikes me as a smaller-scale Southern California analog of NWP (flame bait!). I don't see San Diego needing or wanting to p
Forum: Discussion
11-24-2013 - 08:50
Carr
I always wondered if the the big trestle could still handle the weight of modern trains after all of these years. If the tunnels are redone, I would love to have some of the redwood beams that this li
Forum: Discussion
11-24-2013 - 08:44
Rich Hunn
The "non-wrecked" cars are sitting intact on a siding and certainly far from any vandalism efforts and as to the wrecked cars, not sure where they might be.
Forum: Discussion
11-23-2013 - 21:30
Northern Snowman
As I understand it, the group working to open the line has bought three of the former Idaho Northern & Pacific GP40s and has them on site. Sounds like they are doing work on the line. Does anyone k
Forum: Discussion
11-23-2013 - 21:23
Mark
Why have so many investment groups stepped up (and failed) to restore service over Carrizo Gorge? Are they hoping to get rich off govt subsidies? Or make a fortune off carload traffic into Mexico?
Forum: Discussion
11-23-2013 - 20:54
Graham Buxton
According to this article from earlier this year, there is a new effort to reopen this line: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/feb/11/tijuana-san-diego-railroad-tracks/all/?print
Forum: Discussion
11-23-2013 - 19:31
BOB2
There must be a dozen studies on reopening the SDA&E I've seen over the last 20 years. All of these studies indicating significant costs to reopen and sustain operations. These costs depended on the
Forum: Discussion
11-23-2013 - 17:03
Tom Moungovan
Back around early Jan. of '81, I was given tacit permission to hobo the next days train out of Campo and ride the turn through the gorge. When I got there that rainy morning, the train had been annul
Forum: Discussion
11-23-2013 - 16:47
Rock Senstuf
Videos here. Rich Hunn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There's a You Tube video out of a cab ride through > the canyon, what a freaking maintenance > nightmare.
Forum: Discussion
11-23-2013 - 09:10
Rich Hunn
There's a You Tube video out of a cab ride through the canyon, what a freaking maintenance nightmare. I had no idea there were that many tunnels and one in particular is long and barely open. Someon
Forum: Discussion
11-22-2013 - 22:26
Mr. Cynic
When pigs fly?
Forum: Discussion
11-22-2013 - 21:04
Gorge
Does any one know when they are going to reopen Carrizo Gorge and run trains?
Forum: Discussion
04-05-2013 - 21:46
mook
Carrizo Gorge definitely doesn't belong in the same category as NWP north end, Eureka-Redding, and the like. Yes, it crosses the border twice, but Toyota has a plant IN MEXICO near the border that cou
Forum: Discussion
04-05-2013 - 19:03
George Andrews
Lessee now -- A twisting, low speed route with lotsa WOODEN trestles and WOOD - LINED tunnels, none of which has seen ANY maintenance through Carrizo Gorge in 20 years. One trestle has burned through,
Forum: Discussion
04-05-2013 - 11:21
OPRRMS
BOB2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The reopening of Carrizo is, therefore, a far more > realistic option. Particularly if there's deep pocket backing from th
Forum: Discussion
04-05-2013 - 08:39
BOB2
George, The world doesn't always suck. And, not every proposed rail project is a foamer fantasy, or dubious pipe dream...... Reopening Carrizo has been the subject of several well done and very
Forum: Discussion
04-04-2013 - 22:16
Berg
Why?? The line is only embargoed by it's owner MBTA (San Diego Trolley). CZRY is gone. Old wood needs to be replaced in tunnels and in bridges. Autoracks clear now. WYBS?
Forum: Discussion
04-04-2013 - 17:08
George Andrews
I'd have to put the re - opening of the rail line through Carrizo Gorge right after the re - opening of Milwaukee Road Lines West AND the Northwestern Pacific from Willits to Eureka, on the Fat - Chan
Forum: Discussion
04-02-2013 - 16:21
SP5103
Carrizo Gorge Railway picked them up about 2004. They came in on the UP and were at Campo for a long time. Not sure if they were intended for tourist or the proposed commuter service in Mexico or if C
Forum: Discussion
05-27-2012 - 12:04
Bruce Kelly
PDX, your answer was about what I was expecting. In general, these three locations do seem to be hemmed in close to the coast by mountains, with no easy link to the rest of the U.S. that doesn't invol
Forum: Discussion
10-18-2011 - 14:38
SP5103
Various rumors had them dismantling a smaller diesel locomotive to build some kind of powered baggage car or tender for a fake steam locomitve. They looked at Carrizo Gorge Railroad for a sight, but n
Forum: Discussion
03-26-2011 - 18:26
Erik H.
Freericks Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I can't figure out what is painted on that squad > car. If you look at this website: http://www.therailroadpolice.co
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