Re: Coast Ghost (aka Medflyer....) and the Daylight
Author: mook
Date: 01-26-2017 - 17:07

The Medfly, like the original Oxnard commuter (with SP gallery car - often singular), were political one-shots with no money and no policy behind them. Of course they failed. The Rail Division at the time had other things on its mind, alternating between simple survival and trying to start up a San Joaquin and unload Caltrain on the JPA. Prop 116 hadn't happened yet, iirc.

The Coast route is longer than going down the Valley, especially if somebody listens to The Mouse and resurrects the hole in the hill route. Even going over Tehachapi and thru Palmdale, it's faster than the Coast. SJV route has several larger towns (Fresno & Bakersfield are bigger than anything between San Jose & LA on the coast) for intermediate traffic. Several parts of the Coast are iffy from a long-term standpoint, especially with sea level rising (which is happening, regardless of whether or not you blame humans for it), and would need to be relocated at major cost to make s higher-speed (say, 90-110 mph) operation work. Realistically, considering costs and nimbys, the Coast might see some more improvements (though nothing major) from LA to Santa Barbara, and from Salinas to SJ, but not elsewhere. It's not a LOSSAN - nowhere near the traffic potential, couple hundred miles longer, and lots more costly problems to work through. LOSSAN can cost-effectively be patched up to function at a 100-125 mph level, and to avoid any serious sea level problems for at least 50 if not 100 years. Not so the Coast. And yes, for major transportation arteries (standard engineering practice - 20 year design life - notwithstanding), you do have to plan on 100-year timescales.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  CA Transportation Comission Projects J 01-24-2017 - 08:00
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects Transportation Planner 01-24-2017 - 08:18
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects BOB2 01-24-2017 - 08:42
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects Transportation Planner 01-24-2017 - 09:27
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects mvs 01-24-2017 - 11:10
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects Joe Magruder 01-24-2017 - 11:52
  CA Transportation Comission Projects Commuter 01-24-2017 - 11:56
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects BOB2 01-24-2017 - 13:00
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects mook 01-24-2017 - 13:33
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects Tommy J 01-24-2017 - 13:42
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects Espee2472 01-24-2017 - 14:24
  You should be ashamed of yourselves!!! crmeatball 01-24-2017 - 16:16
  Re: You should be ashamed of yourselves!!! Espee2472 01-24-2017 - 16:22
  Re: Now now boys and girls......Tommy is trying. BOB2 01-24-2017 - 17:09
  Re: You should be ashamed of yourselves!!! JR 01-24-2017 - 16:55
  Re: You should be ashamed of yourselves!!! Espee2472 01-24-2017 - 17:19
  Re: You should be ashamed of yourselves!!! Anon. 01-25-2017 - 00:17
  Re: Who made you the whiney dictator? BOB2 01-25-2017 - 07:21
  My response to your retort Anon. 01-25-2017 - 07:56
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects Tommy J 01-24-2017 - 18:50
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects - coast line Espee99 01-24-2017 - 18:52
  Es PEE 2472 = Loser Liberal ......... 01-25-2017 - 09:19
  Lite Rail to new Rams / Charger Stadium Commuter 01-25-2017 - 09:23
  Re: Lite Rail to new Rams / Charger Stadium Tom McCann 01-25-2017 - 20:46
  Re: Es PEE 2472 = Loser Liberal Espee2472 01-25-2017 - 11:35
  Re: He's obviously a pervert, so just don't respond...... BOB2 01-25-2017 - 12:35
  Re: And now - Back to our topic......... George Andrews 01-25-2017 - 18:57
  Re: And now - Back to our topic........Yuma is just a hop and a skip away, not San Berdo.. BOB2 01-25-2017 - 21:08
  Re: And now - Back to our topic........Yuma is just a hop and a skip away, not San Berdo.. mook 01-25-2017 - 22:18
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects - coast line Ed Workman 01-26-2017 - 11:46
  Re: Coast Ghost (aka Medflyer....) and the Daylight BOB2 01-26-2017 - 16:17
  Re: Coast Ghost (aka Medflyer....) and the Daylight mook 01-26-2017 - 17:07
  Re: Coast Is a strong potential rail market and that argument is nonsense..... BOB2 01-26-2017 - 18:18
  Re: Coast Is a strong potential rail market and that argument is nonsense..... mook 01-26-2017 - 23:23
  Re: Coast Is a strong potential rail market and that argument is nonsense..... BOB2 01-27-2017 - 00:56
  Re: Coast Is a strong potential rail market and that argument is nonsense..... mook 01-27-2017 - 08:18
  Re: Coast Is a strong potential rail market and that argument is nonsense..... BOB2 01-27-2017 - 09:17
  Re: Coast Is a strong potential rail market and that argument is nonsense..... mook 01-27-2017 - 10:20
  Re: Coast Is a strong potential rail market and that argument is nonsense..... Ed Workman 01-28-2017 - 07:12
  Re: CA Transportation Comission Projects mook 01-27-2017 - 08:49


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