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Re: Learn from passenger train history
Author: Phoebe Snow's Boyfriend
Date: 12-02-2012 - 20:06

Erik H. Wrote:
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>
> Actually most of the airlines are, and have been,
> profitable.

I said with few exceptions. Yes, there is Southwest and JetBlue.

However, as discussed in this article, the airline industry collectively is not doing that well.

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The "lousy service" I experienced on
> JetBlue a couple weeks ago made my best trip on
> Amtrak seem worse than Greyhound.

Jet Blue recently announced that it is discontinuing all Pittsburgh - New York City service. Delta and USAirways plan to raise the round trip fare from $200+ to $600+.

I've flow Jet Blue a few times. It was a good experience, but it made my best trips on Amtrak still seem like good experiences on Amtrak.


Greyhound is
> still very much alive and well, and doing far
> better today than in years past.

In Pennsylvania and many other states, Federal section 5311 funding is used to support intercity bus routes including those operated by Greyhound.

Of course it
> jettisoned many unprofitable (and lesser used)
> routes...something Amtrak needs to consider doing,
> considering that Amtrak's systemwide load factor
> is 50% - meaning that on any given day, only half
> of Amtrak's seat-miles have a butt in them.

Amtrak's network is already sparse. Jettisoning the Sunset Limited, for example, would leave the most of the entire southern tier of the nation without east-west intercity passenger train service.

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