Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road?
Author: Dave Smith
Date: 04-03-2013 - 17:36

Mike Stimpson Wrote:
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> My understanding is that the Milwaukee was killed
> by too much traffic (or, more accurately, for not
> properly handling a surge of traffic).
>
> The Milwaukee got a bunch of traffic from the BN
> merge- more than their line could handle. Their
> service quality and roadbed both went to pot.
> Then, of course, the traffic went elsewhere,
> because the Milwaukee wasn't able to move it in a
> timely manner, and they were left with a trashed
> reputation, a trashed roadbed, and shrinking
> traffic.

I recall that Milwaukee may have made a mistake in allowing the "new" 286k hoppers on it's line before doing the necessary track upgrades. For some reason, the 286k's had a preponderance to rock back and forth and finally derail at the worst locations. The Milwaukee should have stuck with the 264k's for the time being on it's unit grain trains until the line was sufficiently upgraded with welded rail.

There was a feeling during the BN merger mania that the Milwaukee could have written it's own ticket for trackage and haulage rights over the Hill Lines. The Milwaukee should have demanded a direct route to Portland over the SP&S line, the usage of the NP Sandpoint line and Yakima line as a grain train bypasses of St Paul Pass and the Saddle Mountains respectively, access to Vancouver BC, and rights over the Oregon Trunk.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? douglasm 04-02-2013 - 18:50
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Pdxrailtransit 04-02-2013 - 19:42
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? UP Rail Guy 04-02-2013 - 20:28
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Mark Meyer 04-06-2013 - 07:41
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Mark Meyer 04-06-2013 - 07:43
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Erik H. 04-02-2013 - 20:34
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Matt Farnsworth 04-02-2013 - 22:22
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Jon 04-03-2013 - 00:14
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? douglasm 04-03-2013 - 05:36
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? WAF 04-03-2013 - 07:11
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Mike Stimpson 04-03-2013 - 09:42
  The Milwaukee's ski bowl Dick Seelye 04-03-2013 - 10:18
  Milwakee's OCS height D 04-03-2013 - 10:27
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Kcjonz 04-03-2013 - 12:30
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Dave Smith 04-03-2013 - 17:36
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? George Andrews 04-03-2013 - 20:56
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? z 04-03-2013 - 21:27
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Tom Farence 04-03-2013 - 21:54
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? E=MC2 04-03-2013 - 23:53
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Graham Buxton 04-04-2013 - 06:48
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Graham Buxton 04-04-2013 - 06:58
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? George Andrews 04-04-2013 - 17:04
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? SGB 04-04-2013 - 18:09
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Rob Leachman 04-08-2013 - 23:49
  Wind At Beverly SDP45 04-09-2013 - 12:06
  Re: Wind At Beverly George Andrews 04-10-2013 - 08:49
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Mark Meyer 04-10-2013 - 10:55
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Rob Leachman 04-10-2013 - 12:00
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? George Andrews 04-10-2013 - 17:10
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Rob Leachman 04-10-2013 - 17:47
  Re: Maltby Hill Rob Leachman 04-12-2013 - 09:20
  Re: Would container traffic have saved the Milwaukee Road? Mark Meyer 04-11-2013 - 21:47


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