Re: BART: broad gauge vs. standard gauge
Author: synonymouse
Date: 08-27-2008 - 00:34

I wish I could be as rational and sanguine as Old Pole Burner but obviously I am not. When I first came to the Bay Area in l966 all the older rail fans told me about the BART gauge issue and they were shaking their collective heads in frustration. They told me that smarter and wiser minds had tried to talk to BART about the inadvisability of non-standard gauge but BART wouldn't hear of it. Their imperious attitude hasn't changed one iota in the intervening decades.

For the amount of money BART has sucked out of the Bay Area the trains should be operating at 100mph. I have got to dig up some newspaper reports about the first week of BART operations on the Fremont line. I can't imagine that cab speedometer that read 101 was in km/hr.

I rate transit vehicles by how good they look and how fun and comfortable they are to ride. Speed counts a lot. If riding the rails is a drudgery I don't see much hope for the industry. In terms of quality of riding experience a Golden Gate Transit MCI bus easily beats out BART in its current worn iteration.

Seeing as how I am probably going to get flamed anyway I might as well throw out a good one. Years ago I was told by a wonderful gentleman who is no longer with us, who worked in transit, was well known in fan circles, and who had many friends on the inside that it was understood that BART did not really have a choice about the gauge issue. How shall I put this delicately - let's say that Southern Pacific management, in the midst of dumping passenger service, was mightily, mightily pleased at BART's decision to adopt broad gauge. No worries about BART wheels getting anywhere close to SP rails, a fact that remains true today. .



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  street running and BART bloat synonymouse 08-26-2008 - 12:46
  Re: street running and BART bloat BOB2 08-26-2008 - 12:59
  Re: street running and BART bloat J 08-26-2008 - 13:25
  Re: street running and BART bloat David Jansson 08-26-2008 - 13:43
  Re: street running and BART bloat david vartanoff 08-26-2008 - 17:25
  Re: street running and BART bloat BOB2 08-26-2008 - 17:25
  Re: street running and BART bloat mook 08-26-2008 - 17:54
  Re: street running and BART bloat synonymouse 08-26-2008 - 20:30
  Re: street running and BART bloat Scott Schiechl 08-26-2008 - 21:43
  BART: broad gauge vs. standard gauge D.E.T. 08-26-2008 - 22:54
  Re: BART: broad gauge vs. standard gauge OldPoleBurner 08-26-2008 - 23:29
  eBART and NIMBYs D.E.T. 08-26-2008 - 23:49
  BART's engineers' choice of gauge s 08-28-2008 - 12:12
  Re: BART: broad gauge vs. standard gauge synonymouse 08-27-2008 - 00:34
  Re: BART: broad gauge vs. standard gauge david vartanoff 08-27-2008 - 08:40
  Re: street running and BART bloat david vartanoff 08-27-2008 - 09:00
  Re: street running and BART bloat Bigdogstx 08-26-2008 - 23:44
  Re: street running and BART bloat BOB2 08-27-2008 - 09:34
  Re: street running and BART bloat synonymouse 08-27-2008 - 09:55
  Re: street running and BART bloat Scott Schiechl 08-27-2008 - 11:20
  Re: street running and BART bloat david vartanoff 08-27-2008 - 12:14
  Re: street running and BART bloat The Montezuma Yardmaster 08-27-2008 - 12:35
  Re: street running and BART bloat BigDogsTX 08-27-2008 - 12:50
  Grade separation Mike Stimpson 08-27-2008 - 12:47
  Re: Grade separation synonymouse 08-27-2008 - 19:36
  Re: Grade separation Scott Schiechl 08-27-2008 - 20:32
  Re: Ax Grinding Abe Lincoln 08-27-2008 - 21:36
  Re: Ax Grinding synonymouse 08-28-2008 - 00:14
  Re: BART Track Gauge fkrock 08-28-2008 - 09:09
  Re: BART Track Gauge synonymouse 08-28-2008 - 09:30
  BART's engineers' choice of track gauge s 08-28-2008 - 13:11
  Re: BART riding questions... George Andrews 08-28-2008 - 19:42
  Re: BART riding questions... Scott Schiechl 08-28-2008 - 20:31
  Re: BART restrooms AL Stangenberger 08-28-2008 - 23:43
  Re: BART restrooms The Montezuma Yardmaster 08-29-2008 - 08:49
  Re: BART restrooms Al Stangenberger 08-29-2008 - 09:29
  Re: BART riding questions... GRRR 08-29-2008 - 18:55


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