One More Nail In The Coffin For Amtrak On The Raton Pass Line
Author: Miles Post
Date: 12-16-2009 - 13:22

A friend forwarded this to me.

"Positive Train Control, as mandated for 30 of our nation’s railroads in the Amtrak reauthorization signed last year by President George W. Bush is an unfunded mandate, which the railroad industry estimates will cost $10 billion to comply, says ProgressiveRailroading.com. The railroads (including Amtrak) will be required to install the monitor-and-control system. Industry benefits on the $10 billion investment are expected to be about $600 million, far, far short of the cost of installation.

As a result of this, some railroads are looking at their track networks and trying to figure out how much of the networks have to have PTC by the mandated start date. Some railroads, such as CSX, are looking at lightly used main lines, like the Sunset route east of New Orleans into Florida, and making decisions not to upgrade that track, electing instead to move freight trains over a nearly parallel route further to the north, and dropping back into Florida for the gateway at Jacksonville to all of Florida’s peninsula.

Other Class I railroads are correctly doing the same. With a mandated investment in the billions, and return on investment in the low millions, railroads have to take a rational approach to PTC. No track is being torn up, but routes are being downgraded until the long term business climate looks more favorable.

This puts Amtrak in a bit of a difficult position. Any route expansions or restorations have to take into account for the first time whether or not PTC infrastructure is in place. If not, the cost of the expansion includes the addition of Positive Train Control on the new track.

Some people have wondered what all of this is going to do to Amtrak as it shakily stands today.

Most likely, the host freight railroads are going to look to Amtrak as much as possible to bear the cost of PTC on their lines, especially on routes which are lightly used for freight movements, but constantly used by Amtrak. Parts of the Southwest Chief route on the BNSF Railway qualify under this condition."



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  One More Nail In The Coffin For Amtrak On The Raton Pass Line Miles Post 12-16-2009 - 13:22
  Re: One More Nail In The Coffin For Amtrak On The Raton Pass Line Espee99 12-16-2009 - 15:27
  Re: One More Nail In The Coffin For Amtrak On The Raton Pass Line jdm 12-16-2009 - 17:22
  Re: One More Nail In The Coffin For Amtrak On The Raton Pass Line John Galt 12-16-2009 - 18:54
  Re: One More Non Sourced PTC Opinion and the Sky is Falling? BOB2 12-16-2009 - 19:18
  Re: One More Non Sourced PTC Opinion and the Sky is Falling? BigDogsTX 12-16-2009 - 19:45
  Re: One More Non Sourced PTC Opinion and the Sky is Falling? Miles Post 12-16-2009 - 22:17
  Maroons k 12-16-2009 - 22:53
  Re: Maroons-k jesse 12-16-2009 - 23:35
  Re: Maroons-k Elmer Fudd 12-17-2009 - 01:21
  Re: Maroons and ignourmuses E 12-17-2009 - 05:52
  Re: Maroons-k Bugs Bunny 12-17-2009 - 05:55
  Re: Whining is Our National Disease-And Bi-Partisan BOB2 12-17-2009 - 08:33
  Re: Whining is Our National Disease-And Bi-Partisan The Montezuma Yardmaster 12-17-2009 - 10:30
  Re: Whining is Our National Disease-And Bi-Partisan Dragoman 12-17-2009 - 11:24
  Pros and cons of 3/4 moving <> 12-17-2009 - 13:07
  Re: Pros and cons of 3/4 moving Dan "Snuffy" Dalkey 12-17-2009 - 13:16
  Re: Pros and cons of 3/4 moving David Maxwell 12-17-2009 - 15:06
  Re: Whining is Our National Disease-And Bi-Partisan jst3751 12-18-2009 - 11:22
  Re: Whining is Our National Disease-And Bi-Partisan The Montezuma Yardmaster 12-18-2009 - 18:32
  Re: Maroons-k CPRR 12-17-2009 - 08:28
  Re: Maroons OldPoleBurner 12-17-2009 - 11:44
  Re: One More Nail In The Coffin For Amtrak On The Raton Pass Line Mike T. 12-17-2009 - 12:08
  Re: One More Nail In The Coffin For Amtrak On The Raton Pass Line agentatascadero 12-17-2009 - 12:59
  All politicans stink! <> 12-17-2009 - 13:09
  PTC - just do it already Robert MacDowell 12-17-2009 - 16:13
  to the Old Pole Burner The Montezuma Yardmaster 12-17-2009 - 17:11
  Re: to the Old Pole Burner OldPoleBurner 12-18-2009 - 11:24
  Re: to the Old Pole Burner George Andrews 12-18-2009 - 12:09
  Re: to the Old Pole Burner The Montezuma Yardmaster 12-18-2009 - 18:27
  Re: PTC not solely dependent upon GPS? BOB2 12-19-2009 - 08:39
  PTC John West 12-19-2009 - 10:04
  Re: PTC not solely dependent upon GPS? crmeatball 12-19-2009 - 10:24
  Re: PTC not solely dependent upon GPS? Robert macdowell 12-19-2009 - 13:35
  Re: PTC not solely dependent upon GPS? mook 12-19-2009 - 18:40
  Re: PTC not solely dependent upon GPS? Dr Zarkoff 12-20-2009 - 13:38
  Re: PTC not solely dependent upon GPS? John West 12-20-2009 - 19:12
  Re: PTC not solely dependent upon GPS? OPRRMS 12-20-2009 - 20:12


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