Re: Xonstruction in the canyon
Author: Cainrockyardmaster
Date: 07-09-2015 - 18:09

Dr Zarkoff Wrote:
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> >I suggest very strongly that you go to Solano
> County Assessors Office and find out what name is
> on the tax records for the former Sacramento
> Northern land. However you seem to know more about
> it than an attorney who specialized in real estate
> law. He discovered the Molena property and had
> title transferred on it together with the ROW
> land. He spent many hours working with maps in the
> Assessor's Office. BAERA, the legal operator of
> WRM, now owns the old SN right if way all the way
> to Chips Island.
>
> No it does not; all WRM owns is the track, which
> it had to buy and was a little concerned about
> coming up with the necessary cashola at the time
> (something on the order of $200,000). The SP had
> trackage rights over the line (forget how they got
> them) and had to sign off before the line went
> rails to trails. I probably still have a copy of
> the SP's letter somewhere in my files (development
> of the deep water port at Collinsville had been
> effectively blocked by "clever environmentalists"
> was the phraseology used).
>
> Quite possibly it owns outright those pieces of
> land associated with the barn at Molena, but the
> R/W itself, the land under the track, is in the
> right of way bank. WRM is the custodian, which
> carries a large amount of control over its use,
> but by no means is it "ownership" in the legal
> sense like it is for the acreage at Rio Vista
> Junction where the carbarns, shop, and visitor's
> center are.
>
> There's also the R/W of the connection to Cordero
> from Creed through Travis -- all that's left of it
> on the south side is between Creed and the base
> fence line. The UP didn't realize it owned the
> property, and WRM was at one time interested in
> acquiring enough of it to put the wye back in, but
> I never heard what transpired about it (WRM no
> longer uses this part of the line).
>
> I was there privy, to all the discussion and
> process. Written into the transfer to the rails to
> trails apparatus are the "free" easements for the
> two petroleum pipelines, no different from the
> easements for pipelines on the former SP Niles
> Canyon line.
>
> >At one time a very small group of dissidents who
> were not able to get elected to the BAERA board
> even published a competing newsletter that was
> mailed to BAERA members. Does "The Report" sound
> familiar? (The official newsletter was "The
> Review.") "The Report" contained many articles
> about the progress restoring Robert Dollar #3 that
> today runs in Niles Canyon. The dissidents
> circulated much wrong information that you are
> repeating here.
>
> The usual disinformation.
>
> You used to be a steam/diesel engine hater par
> excellence at WRM. Why are you now at PLA, where
> there is absolutely no trolley wire, let along any
> of your favorite trolleys?

Gee whiz, Dr. Z-- I thought you and Fred were old buddies !! Even though Fred got into a disagreement about operating a particular car and then quit the organization, my question to YOU is: Are you still active at WRM these days or did you leave as well at some point in time ?

CRY



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group Mr. Crazy 07-01-2015 - 08:06
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group wsabo 07-01-2015 - 09:16
  Train hater? BOB2 07-01-2015 - 10:00
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group Central Scruitinizer 07-01-2015 - 12:37
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group flyonthewall 07-01-2015 - 17:31
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group You Snooze You Cruze 07-01-2015 - 17:40
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group Randy Hearst 07-01-2015 - 17:49
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group Bill Hough 07-01-2015 - 20:20
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group Negin 07-01-2015 - 20:44
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for many collections? BOB2 07-02-2015 - 09:36
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for many collections? wsabo 07-02-2015 - 11:05
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for many collections? Shortline Sammie 07-02-2015 - 12:05
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for many collections? Dr Zarkoff 07-02-2015 - 11:52
  Then who actually owns and conttrols the use of the Niles Canyon RoW? Margaret (SP fan) 07-02-2015 - 13:54
  Re: Then who actually owns and conttrols the use of the Niles Canyon RoW? BOB2 07-02-2015 - 14:43
  Re: Then who actually owns and conttrols the use of the Niles Canyon RoW? Dr Zarkoff 07-02-2015 - 14:55
  Re: Then who actually owns and conttrols the use of the Niles Canyon RoW? Negin 07-02-2015 - 16:38
  Re: Then who actually owns and conttrols the use of the Niles Canyon RoW? Dr Zarkoff 07-02-2015 - 14:50
  Re: The scoping of this seems somewhat flawed? BOB2 07-02-2015 - 17:01
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for many collections? Transportation Planner 07-02-2015 - 21:41
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for many collections? Tony Johnson 07-02-2015 - 21:27
  Funding vs. needs for transit PRR Gotham Limited 07-01-2015 - 18:08
  Re: Funding vs. needs for transit Cprr 07-02-2015 - 19:41
  Re: Funding vs. needs for transit OPRRMS 07-02-2015 - 21:07
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group Chas 07-02-2015 - 20:31
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group Dr Zarkoff 07-02-2015 - 23:00
  Re: I think the writing is on the wall for Niles Canyon Group rusticmike 07-03-2015 - 06:54
  Re: Mixed use-no way.....it will never happen. BOB2 07-03-2015 - 07:49
  Re: NILES to HEARST via NCRy ... KRK 07-03-2015 - 08:11
  Re: Yes, Niles to Hearst- BOB2 07-03-2015 - 08:41
  Re: Mixed use-no way.....it will never happen. Negin 07-03-2015 - 10:01
  Re: Mixed use-no way.....it will never happen. Ee 07-03-2015 - 11:30
  Re: Mixed use-no way.....it will never happen. Negin 07-03-2015 - 12:32
  Re: Mixed use-no way.....it will never happen. Ee 07-03-2015 - 13:02
  Re: UP and ACE inspection train? Mr. Crazy 07-03-2015 - 15:04
  Re: UP and ACE inspection train? mook 07-03-2015 - 15:55
  Re: UP and ACE inspection train? Dr Zarkoff 07-03-2015 - 20:20
  Re: UP and ACE inspection train? Negin 07-03-2015 - 16:56
  Re: Mixed use-no way.....it will never happen. E 07-03-2015 - 17:33
  Xonstruction in the canyon Espee99 07-05-2015 - 07:51
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Mr. Crazy 07-05-2015 - 13:35
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Espee99 07-05-2015 - 15:16
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Dr Zarkoff 07-05-2015 - 18:56
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon fkrock 07-06-2015 - 08:05
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Dr Zarkoff 07-06-2015 - 10:56
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon fkrock 07-06-2015 - 14:54
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Dr Zarkoff 07-06-2015 - 15:35
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Cainrockyardmaster 07-09-2015 - 18:09
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Dr Zarkoff 07-09-2015 - 20:26
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon mook 07-06-2015 - 13:47
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Dr Zarkoff 07-06-2015 - 14:34
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon mook 07-06-2015 - 10:02
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Dr Zarkoff 07-06-2015 - 11:29
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon mook 07-06-2015 - 13:35
  Re: Xonstruction in the canyon Dr Zarkoff 07-06-2015 - 14:59


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