Re: Atk in SC
Author: OPRRMS
Date: 02-07-2018 - 18:36
Nudge Wrote:
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> I tried to read thru all the comments but got
> lost. I ran a steam engine for the Army in VA that
> is the closest I ever came to this area by rail.
>
> Having never seen the area or know the operating
> rules, I formed an opinion, as such.
>
> The area was or used to be ABS or CTC.
>
> There was an order saying that the signals in the
> area were out of service.
>
> I think there were two mains and a siding. Part
> way on the siding was a hand thrown cross-over and
> two hand thrown switches.
>
> As practice, the CSX train had used this
> cross-over to double over to the siding. Once on
> the siding, the died under the hours of service
> and tied up and went home.
>
> On one of the main lines was the "outside"
> crossover switch that had not been restored to its
> proper position.
>
> Atk was cleared through the area. It was running
> in "Dark Territory" rules which allowed 59 mph for
> passenger. (49 for freight. )
>
> For some reason, (that is what we have to wait
> for) Atk found the x-over switch lined into the
> side of the CSX train in the siding. Atk was
> unable to stop.
>
> I wouldhave to see the TO ATK had and why he was
> allowed beyond restricted speed in non inspected
> track where the signal system was B/O.
>
> My only dealing with CSX was at Lee Hall and they
> ran a pretty slack outfit.
>
> Anybody?
>
>
> Nudge
The answers to every single one of those questions can be found in the comments in the various threads.
You can also find answers by searching through the news media, which has extensively reported on this with words, pictures and videos, and have also covered the NTSB's press conferences.
Last but not least, go to the NTSB's website and see what you can find. It's always the best source for accurate, factual information, rather than relying on speculation and opinion.
NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Graham Buxton |
02-04-2018 - 18:26 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Geob |
02-04-2018 - 19:12 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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JOHN |
02-04-2018 - 19:53 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 20:53 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Hoghead 1 |
02-04-2018 - 21:13 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 21:16 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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RRACS |
02-06-2018 - 07:56 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Hot Water |
02-06-2018 - 07:59 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 08:34 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:09 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 11:27 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:35 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 11:45 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:58 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-06-2018 - 12:36 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 12:51 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 14:09 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 14:57 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 15:45 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 16:23 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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OldPoleBurner |
02-07-2018 - 12:15 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 13:45 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-06-2018 - 16:10 |
Re: 59 mph, in unsingalled territory OMG!
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 17:14 |
Re: 59 mph, in unsingalled territory OMG!
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 18:48 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 19:36 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 19:42 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 175 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 20:39 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 175 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 06:14 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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BOB2 |
02-07-2018 - 08:35 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 13:12 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 13:32 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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BOB2 |
02-07-2018 - 15:34 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 17:28 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 18:10 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 17:27 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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OldPoleBurner |
02-07-2018 - 13:16 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 13:51 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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BOB2 |
02-04-2018 - 21:16 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 20:40 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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WILL |
02-04-2018 - 20:59 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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RWS |
02-04-2018 - 21:53 |
Atk in SC
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Nudge |
02-07-2018 - 18:21 |
Re: Atk in SC |
OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 18:36 |
Re: Atk in SC
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 19:15 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 21:38 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Finis |
02-07-2018 - 20:46 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Glen Icanberry |
02-09-2018 - 03:55 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
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BOB2 |
02-09-2018 - 07:47 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
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tundraboomer |
02-09-2018 - 08:14 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
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OPRRMS |
02-09-2018 - 10:50 |