Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
Author: BOB2
Date: 02-09-2018 - 07:47
So, yes OPRRMS, it was not a signal "failure" as I experience on Beaumont, where we were expected to run at restricted speed, because all of the track circuit protection was down.
Yes, this was a "planned" "shut down" of the same track circuit protections, so it was apparently "okay" to go at 59 mph., under the "rules" without that protection, because that protection was shut doen "on purpose".....
That is the logic I am hearing babbled by some "old heads": When it is an unplanned failure you it is only safe to operate at restricted speed, but when we shut it down on purpose it is okay to do 59 mph, with a passenger train, because the "rule" said it was okay"....... And, I see that one of you thinks that is a reasonable and logical thing to think, because "you can't prevent all accidents'...... WTF?
I don't know if some of you might have noticed, we have just done that "experiment". And, that it should be obviously apparent from the "observation" of the results of that "experiment", based on my "observed" "body count", that this train could not miraculously somehow stop faster for a "switch not properly lined", just because we turned off the protective track circuits and signals....."on purpose".....
But, in the opinion of some of you bright lights, my logic on this fact and this result, is somehow flawed, of course.
NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Graham Buxton |
02-04-2018 - 18:26 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Geob |
02-04-2018 - 19:12 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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JOHN |
02-04-2018 - 19:53 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 20:53 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Hoghead 1 |
02-04-2018 - 21:13 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 21:16 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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RRACS |
02-06-2018 - 07:56 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Hot Water |
02-06-2018 - 07:59 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 08:34 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:09 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 11:27 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:35 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 11:45 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 11:58 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-06-2018 - 12:36 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 12:51 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 14:09 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 14:57 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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OPRRMS |
02-06-2018 - 15:45 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 16:23 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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OldPoleBurner |
02-07-2018 - 12:15 |
Re: Amtrak in SC-Restricted Speed?
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 13:45 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-06-2018 - 16:10 |
Re: 59 mph, in unsingalled territory OMG!
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 17:14 |
Re: 59 mph, in unsingalled territory OMG!
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 18:48 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 19:36 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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tundraboomer |
02-06-2018 - 19:42 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 175 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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BOB2 |
02-06-2018 - 20:39 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 175 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 06:14 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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BOB2 |
02-07-2018 - 08:35 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 13:12 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 13:32 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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BOB2 |
02-07-2018 - 15:34 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 17:28 |
Re: Yep that was in the rule book but I never saw it used....and it's still a bad practice.
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 18:10 |
Re: My poor logic, yeah right?
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 17:27 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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OldPoleBurner |
02-07-2018 - 13:16 |
Re: 100 years, actually over 17 years and OMG we're still alllowing that kind of operation and these unnecessary deaths?
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 13:51 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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BOB2 |
02-04-2018 - 21:16 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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OPRRMS |
02-04-2018 - 20:40 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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WILL |
02-04-2018 - 20:59 |
Re: NTSB says CSX switch 'lined & locked into siding' (re Amtrak in SC)
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RWS |
02-04-2018 - 21:53 |
Atk in SC
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Nudge |
02-07-2018 - 18:21 |
Re: Atk in SC
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OPRRMS |
02-07-2018 - 18:36 |
Re: Atk in SC
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tundraboomer |
02-07-2018 - 19:15 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Dr Zarkoff |
02-07-2018 - 21:38 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Finis |
02-07-2018 - 20:46 |
Re: Atk in SC
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Glen Icanberry |
02-09-2018 - 03:55 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail? |
BOB2 |
02-09-2018 - 07:47 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
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tundraboomer |
02-09-2018 - 08:14 |
Re: Except that some of them feel it is safer to run at 59 when you turn them off, but only at restricted speed when they fail?
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OPRRMS |
02-09-2018 - 10:50 |