Re: I thought high speed rail didn't use steep grades on short segments precisely to avoid the rollercoaster effect
Author: FUD
Date: 08-06-2023 - 08:46
I agree the line is not designed for diesel-hauled trains. They would definitely not be able to maintain high speeds throughout. But it would be better than the freight line they run on now. Yes, the timing difference won't be dramatic, but if diesels are used it would be an interim thing (in theory) while extensions to the desired endpoints (not just the forced ones in the Valley) are figured out. We've done that with "freeways to nowhere" that were dropped, then picked up again 20-30 years later.
And yes, I also think that there's an fair to good chance that the Valley line is all we will ever see, for a long time if not forever. I certainly don't expect to live long enough to ride HSR from SF to LA. Cucamonga to Vegas, perhaps, but not the Big One. Thinking Big One, I'm seeing total construction time being on the order of the recurrence interval for a M8ish quake on the San Andreas ...
Event: Complete California High-Speed Rail in Five Years?
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Commenter |
08-02-2023 - 20:53 |
Re: Event: Complete California High-Speed Rail in Five Years? LMAO... I love the developer and contractor funded new urbanist "front groups" for their optimism....
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BOB2 |
08-03-2023 - 09:18 |
Re: Event: Complete California High-Speed Rail in Five Years? LMAO... I love the developer and contractor funded new urbanist "front groups" for their optimism....
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John Bruce |
08-03-2023 - 14:21 |
Re: Event: Complete California High-Speed Rail in Five Years? LMAO... I love the developer and contractor funded new urbanist "front groups" for their optimism....
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John Bruce |
08-03-2023 - 14:36 |
Re: Event: Complete California High-Speed Rail in Five Years? LMAO... I love the developer and contractor funded new urbanist "front groups" for their optimism....
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FUD |
08-03-2023 - 15:38 |
Re: Event: Complete California High-Speed Rail in Five Years? LMAO... I love the developer and contractor funded new urbanist "front groups" for their optimism....
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Beaver Cleaver |
08-03-2023 - 22:59 |
Re: Event: Complete California High-Speed Rail in Five Years? LMAO... I love the developer and contractor funded new urbanist "front groups" for their optimism....
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FUD |
08-03-2023 - 15:45 |
Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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But 4% grades are not a problem |
08-03-2023 - 19:46 |
Re: Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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John Bruce |
08-04-2023 - 10:04 |
Re: Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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Clem |
08-04-2023 - 19:43 |
Re: Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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John Bruce |
08-05-2023 - 07:27 |
Re: Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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Transportation Planner |
08-05-2023 - 08:15 |
Re: Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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FUD |
08-05-2023 - 09:12 |
Re: Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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FUD |
08-05-2023 - 09:13 |
Re: Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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Transportation Planner |
08-05-2023 - 10:28 |
Re: Rumor was CHSR would poison pill the segment by building to standards that can't support the weight of traditional diesels or dual modes
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John Bruce |
08-05-2023 - 09:14 |
BOB2, can you weigh in on this "Short 4% grades will kill travel time" nonsense?
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Jimmie |
08-05-2023 - 14:19 |
I thought high speed rail didn't use steep grades on short segments precisely to avoid the rollercoaster effect
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Jimmie |
08-05-2023 - 14:22 |
Re: I thought high speed rail didn't use steep grades on short segments precisely to avoid the rollercoaster effect
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John Bruce |
08-05-2023 - 15:15 |
Re: I thought high speed rail didn't use steep grades on short segments precisely to avoid the rollercoaster effect
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FUD |
08-05-2023 - 16:20 |
Re: I thought high speed rail didn't use steep grades on short segments precisely to avoid the rollercoaster effect
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John Bruce |
08-06-2023 - 07:14 |
Re: I thought high speed rail didn't use steep grades on short segments precisely to avoid the rollercoaster effect |
FUD |
08-06-2023 - 08:46 |
Re: BOB2, can you weigh in on this? Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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BOB2 |
08-05-2023 - 19:10 |
Re: BOB2, can you weigh in on this? Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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Blathering bob |
08-06-2023 - 09:09 |
Re: BOB2, can you weigh in on this? Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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BOB2 |
08-06-2023 - 09:29 |
Re: Hey look the doped up latent repressed mentally ill troll is posing as BOB2 again...
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BOB2 |
08-06-2023 - 10:36 |
Re: BOB2, can you weigh in on this? Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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Chris Walker |
08-06-2023 - 14:46 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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BOB2 |
08-06-2023 - 15:29 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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BLOB222 |
08-07-2023 - 09:35 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Chris Walker |
08-07-2023 - 14:27 |
Re: Well, about dynamiters.... And trolls...
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BOB2 |
08-07-2023 - 17:57 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Dr Zarkoff |
08-07-2023 - 20:36 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Chris Walker |
08-08-2023 - 04:32 |
Re: As usual, I only knew the effects... The good Doctor knew the cause....
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BOB2 |
08-08-2023 - 06:52 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Dr Zarkoff |
08-08-2023 - 13:42 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Chris Walker |
08-08-2023 - 14:56 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Dr Zarkoff |
08-08-2023 - 15:50 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Chris Walker |
08-08-2023 - 18:49 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Dr Zarkoff |
08-08-2023 - 23:59 |
Re: Well, about the F3 Dr. Z.
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Chris Walker |
08-12-2023 - 02:59 |
Re: Well, about the F3 Dr. Z.
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Dr Zarkoff |
08-12-2023 - 12:02 |
Re: Well, about the F3 Dr. Z.
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Chris Walker |
08-12-2023 - 18:01 |
Re: Well, about the F3 Dr. Z.
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Dr Zarkoff |
08-12-2023 - 19:20 |
Re: Well, about the incident at the westbound Niland distant signal....
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Chris Walker |
08-07-2023 - 15:19 |
Re: BOB2, can you weigh in on this? Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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BLOB222 |
08-07-2023 - 09:30 |
Re: Did Nancy work for the RR before your mental illness and dope forced you to live in mom's basement and become a troll??Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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BOB2 |
08-07-2023 - 12:19 |
Bob2 can name call all he wants! He's still a moron
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BLOB222 |
08-09-2023 - 07:24 |
Re: You must have scored some more dope Nancy....
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BOB2 |
08-09-2023 - 18:08 |
Re: You must have scored some more dope Nancy....
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BOB420.69 |
08-09-2023 - 19:30 |
Re: You must have scored some more dope Nancy.... Yep, I guess so...
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BOB2 |
08-09-2023 - 19:36 |
Re: bob2 must have scored some more dope Nancy....
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BLOB222 |
08-10-2023 - 17:25 |
Re: bob2 must have scored some more dope Nancy....
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BLOB222 |
08-10-2023 - 17:25 |
Re: bob2 must have scored some more dope Nancy....
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BLOB222 |
08-10-2023 - 17:25 |
Re: Oh Nancy did this turn you on?
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BOB2 |
08-10-2023 - 18:26 |
Re: Oh Nancy did this turn you on?
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BOB2 |
08-11-2023 - 11:22 |
Re: Name calling is all you got!
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BLOB222 |
08-11-2023 - 13:03 |
Re: BOB2, can you weigh in on this? Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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Wacko Taco |
08-07-2023 - 12:54 |
Re: BOB2, can you weigh in on this? Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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John Bruce |
08-06-2023 - 14:49 |
Re: BOB2, can you weigh in on this? Are you sure? No, but no short four percent segment is going ot bring a 125 train down to 40 mph. in a half a mile of 4% grade.
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FUD |
08-06-2023 - 19:33 |