Re: Lighten Up
Author: Freericks
Date: 08-11-2013 - 09:22

Eddie Elkins Wrote:
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> Margaret (SP fan) Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Eddie Elkins:
> > Thank you very much for taking such a brave
> stand,
> > in spite of all the anti-Monterey-passenger-rail
>
> > views posted here.
>
> Thank you for the kind words, Margaret! This has
> been a real education for me. Never in my wildest
> dreams would I have figured there are so many
> NIMBYs who can still be a NIMBY and the
> controversy-in-question doesn't even have to be
> anywhere near their backyard!
>
> And who would have thought that there would be so
> many NIMBYs amongst ourselves -- railfans!
>
> Walt Kelly's Pogo character said it best:
>
> [www.mindparts.org]


Ain't that the truth...

When I was a kid, a teen, even a young man, I always assumed those who loved trains were those who supported them.

If you truly believe in a zero sum society where no matter what you spend your money something else gets robbed, crap - we as railroad enthusiasts might as well fight for those choochoos.

But as most economic theorists have blown that idea to smithereens anyway and long ago proven that expenditure on infrastructure results in huge windfalls down the line - we as railroad enthusiasts have all the more reason to fight for the choochoos.

Sadly - the draw and joy of being a cynic who hate everything is too great for some.

By the by - don't get me wrong - if you asked me to bet, what are the chance of there being a passenger train from San Fancisco to Monterey in my lifetime I would say they are ZERO to NONE.

Doesn't change the fact that connecting a metro area with 7.2 Million people in it to a railroad-reachable location with a 2.2 Billion annual spend in tourism is a good idea.

Let's see one person here stop talking about a bike path or a Cosco parking lot or NIMBY lawyers how are outnumbered by the thousands by those in San Francisco and San Jose and start looking at real numbers.

Will it happen? Nah - the RR won't be built either. Not a single one of us posting here are anything but railfans with opinions - sitting here yelling at each other as if convincing a one of us could do anything! Won't change a rear-end hair on a dead possum.



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 12:25
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Carol L. Voss 08-09-2013 - 12:44
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Mike Swanson 08-09-2013 - 15:40
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 16:09
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Carol L. Voss 08-09-2013 - 16:28
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Cp4449 08-09-2013 - 16:46
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey stash 08-09-2013 - 17:05
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 21:18
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 17:11
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 17:05
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey stash 08-09-2013 - 17:23
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 17:31
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey stash 08-09-2013 - 17:35
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 17:43
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey stash 08-09-2013 - 18:21
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-12-2013 - 03:20
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Pagrovian 08-10-2013 - 12:51
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-10-2013 - 13:10
  Eccles and Eastern Ry..... next stop Los Gatos HUTCH 7.62 08-10-2013 - 20:27
  Re: Eccles and Eastern Ry..... next stop Los Gatos Graham Buxton 08-10-2013 - 21:05
  Re: Eccles and Eastern Ry..... next stop Los Gatos Eddie Elkins 08-11-2013 - 00:22
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Pagrovian 08-11-2013 - 12:18
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Freericks 08-11-2013 - 13:23
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-12-2013 - 02:56
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey mook 08-09-2013 - 17:12
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 17:23
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Carol L. Voss 08-09-2013 - 17:45
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 20:44
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 20:44
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey mook 08-09-2013 - 20:53
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 21:07
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Fred 08-09-2013 - 18:09
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Victor Olanski 08-09-2013 - 19:23
  You All Took The Bait DrDre 08-09-2013 - 20:38
  Re: You All Took The Bait---so???? :-) Carol L. Voss 08-09-2013 - 20:59
  Re: You All Took The Bait---so???? :-) Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 21:14
  Re: You All Took The Bait---so???? :-) Freericks 08-09-2013 - 21:41
  Lessons To Learn Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 22:49
  Re: Lessons To Learn Freericks 08-10-2013 - 08:43
  Re: Lessons To Learn Reader 08-10-2013 - 11:23
  Re: Lessons To Learn Freericks 08-10-2013 - 12:34
  Re: Lessons To Learn Flames 08-11-2013 - 00:10
  Re: Lessons To Learn Freericks 08-11-2013 - 09:11
  Re: Lessons To Learn Freericks 08-11-2013 - 09:31
  Re: Lessons To Learn Fred 08-11-2013 - 17:58
  Re: Lessons To Learn Freericks 08-11-2013 - 19:18
  The Oregon Talgo-CASCADES Have A Lesson For Us Eddie Elkins 08-12-2013 - 08:34
  Re: The Oregon Talgo-CASCADES Have A Lesson For Us SgtStripes 08-12-2013 - 15:49
  OR v. CA Eddie Elkins 08-12-2013 - 18:37
  Re: OR v. CA Timothy Barham 08-13-2013 - 09:28
  Re: OR v. CA SJW 08-13-2013 - 11:47
  Re: OR v. CA mook 08-13-2013 - 12:39
  Re: OR v. CA go home 08-13-2013 - 14:56
  Re: OR v. CA HUTCH 7.62 08-13-2013 - 18:44
  Re: OR v. CA F. Gump 08-13-2013 - 21:56
  Re: OR v. CA HUTCH 7.62 08-14-2013 - 21:45
  Re: You All Took The Bait---so???? :-) Eddie Elkins 08-10-2013 - 13:44
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-12-2013 - 03:54
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-12-2013 - 03:41
  Lighten Up Del Monte 08-09-2013 - 22:47
  Re: Lighten Up Eddie Elkins 08-09-2013 - 23:01
  Re: Lighten Up Rich Hunn 08-10-2013 - 09:42
  Re: Lighten Up trollbaited 08-10-2013 - 10:21
  Re: Lighten Up Freericks 08-10-2013 - 13:08
  Re: Lighten Up Margaret (SP fan) 08-10-2013 - 15:12
  Re: Lighten Up Eddie Elkins 08-11-2013 - 00:32
  Re: Lighten Up Freericks 08-11-2013 - 09:22
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Jon 08-10-2013 - 11:37
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Reader 08-10-2013 - 11:48
  about the right of way bro 08-10-2013 - 12:18
  Re: about the right of way Rich Hunn 08-10-2013 - 12:51
  Re: Restoring Passenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-10-2013 - 12:51
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Shoofly 08-10-2013 - 13:27
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Drew Jacksich 08-10-2013 - 14:28
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Fred 08-10-2013 - 15:32
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey lurker 08-10-2013 - 22:09
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Drew 08-11-2013 - 09:13
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Timothy Barham 08-11-2013 - 14:31
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Eddie Elkins 08-12-2013 - 02:45
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Cp4449 08-10-2013 - 14:41
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Freericks 08-10-2013 - 18:34
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey mook 08-10-2013 - 17:18
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey mook 08-10-2013 - 17:24
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Jim Speaker 08-10-2013 - 17:39
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Scott Schiechl 08-10-2013 - 19:12
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey SRSLY 08-10-2013 - 23:20
  Eddie Elkins What Did You Suck Me Into Freericks 08-11-2013 - 19:41
  Re: Eddie Elkins What Did You Suck Me Into LOL! 08-12-2013 - 10:49
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  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Gary Hunter 08-12-2013 - 14:32
  Re: Restoring PAssenger Rail Service To Monterey Carol L. Voss 08-12-2013 - 15:01
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  Re: Enviro issues---Elkhorn Slough and Mook Freericks 08-12-2013 - 18:49
  Re: Enviro issues---Elkhorn Slough and Mook Eddie Elkins 08-13-2013 - 12:15
  Re: Enviro issues---Elkhorn Slough and Mook eemk 08-12-2013 - 21:23
  ATTENTION EVERYONE! TruthSayer 08-12-2013 - 20:12
  Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE! Eddie Elkins 08-13-2013 - 12:32
  Is this the largest # of replies ever on AP? Margaret (SP fan) 08-12-2013 - 20:56
  Re: Is this the largest # of replies ever on AP? Freericks 08-12-2013 - 21:09
  Re: Is this the largest # of replies ever on AP? Alfred Doten 08-13-2013 - 08:10
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  Re: Lets get Harry Reid to drum up money like he did for the V&T HUTCH 7.62 08-14-2013 - 21:41
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  GEE Eddie I don't know HUTCH 7.62 08-18-2013 - 21:28
  Leave It To Eddie Eddie Elkins 08-19-2013 - 17:39


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