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Re: The Oregon Talgo-CASCADES Have A Lesson For Us
Author: SgtStripes
Date: 08-12-2013 - 15:49
Eddie Elkins Wrote:
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> Fred Wrote:
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> > Nobody answered my question.
> > If 43 years ago, the SP didn't have enough
> traffic
> > to support the Delmonte, where is the traffic
> base
> > in 2013?
>
> Please refer to my post of 08-12-2013 - 03:41
>
> Here's a couple of interesting statistics:
>
> If you consider the population of Lane County in
> Oregon, where the Eugene-Springfield metro area
> lies, you will find that it has a SMALLER
> population than Monterey County, where the
> Seaside-Monterey-Carmel metro area is located.
>
> The State of Oregon is progressive enough that it
> feels that the corridor between Portland and
> Eugene is worthy of Talgo-CASCADE regional
> service. Remember, too, that the route is also
> served by the COAST STARLIGHT, a train financed by
> the Federal government. Note that Oregon felt
> that twice-daily service by Trains 14-11 was not
> adequate, hence the Talgo-CASCADE service was
> added.
>
> Oregon recognizes the value of passenger rail
> service. Oregon recognizes that there are
> alternatives to rubber tires and gasoline-fed
> internal combustion engines.
>
> Oregon doesn't obsess whether or not the
> Talgo-CASCADE regional service operates at a
> profit.
>
> We could learn a lot from Oregon.
>
> As gathered from the Internet:
>
> <>As of the 2010 U.S. Census, Lane County had a
> population of 351,715.
>
> <>As of the 2010 U.S. Census, Monterey County had
> a population of 415,057, which has grown 3.31%
> since 2000.
"We could learn a lot from Oregon"??? Like why does Oregon has the highest marginal tax rate in the country? Why is 55 mph the speed limit everywhere but the Interstate. Why can't you pump your own gas in Oregon? Etc, etc, etc. Oregon is just as screwed up as California.
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> Fred Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nobody answered my question.
> > If 43 years ago, the SP didn't have enough
> traffic
> > to support the Delmonte, where is the traffic
> base
> > in 2013?
>
> Please refer to my post of 08-12-2013 - 03:41
>
> Here's a couple of interesting statistics:
>
> If you consider the population of Lane County in
> Oregon, where the Eugene-Springfield metro area
> lies, you will find that it has a SMALLER
> population than Monterey County, where the
> Seaside-Monterey-Carmel metro area is located.
>
> The State of Oregon is progressive enough that it
> feels that the corridor between Portland and
> Eugene is worthy of Talgo-CASCADE regional
> service. Remember, too, that the route is also
> served by the COAST STARLIGHT, a train financed by
> the Federal government. Note that Oregon felt
> that twice-daily service by Trains 14-11 was not
> adequate, hence the Talgo-CASCADE service was
> added.
>
> Oregon recognizes the value of passenger rail
> service. Oregon recognizes that there are
> alternatives to rubber tires and gasoline-fed
> internal combustion engines.
>
> Oregon doesn't obsess whether or not the
> Talgo-CASCADE regional service operates at a
> profit.
>
> We could learn a lot from Oregon.
>
> As gathered from the Internet:
>
> <>As of the 2010 U.S. Census, Lane County had a
> population of 351,715.
>
> <>As of the 2010 U.S. Census, Monterey County had
> a population of 415,057, which has grown 3.31%
> since 2000.
"We could learn a lot from Oregon"??? Like why does Oregon has the highest marginal tax rate in the country? Why is 55 mph the speed limit everywhere but the Interstate. Why can't you pump your own gas in Oregon? Etc, etc, etc. Oregon is just as screwed up as California.
