Re: Not a bad deal for this taxpayer?
Author: BOB2
Date: 01-21-2011 - 04:21

A bargain price is paid for what at the worst will be some nice prime public parkland?

There is no simplistic "auction" based commodity type free market in transportation, since there are real constraints and constrictions of optimal geography and significant physical and financial barriers to entry, that prevent such an "ideal" "free market" conditions. There are also largely regional and sectional railroads monopolies, who participate in a diverse transportation market, dominated by a massively publicly subsidized investment in a system of highways, which give significant indirect operating subsidies to the advantage of trucks. So this simplistic libertarian economic drivel is irrelevant to most real conditions in transportation economics.

In the real world of transportation economics these "imperfect" markets dominate, with lots of externalities, avoided, or unpaid, and plenty of "free riders" like the trucking industry.
We benefit from some of this with cheap goods, but it is not a truly "free market" by any means. There are many barriers to entry, there are unique optimal routes, many opportunities for market dominance, price discrimination, price gouging, and market manipulation. These complexities, imperfect conditions, real market distortions are not made to simply vanish by some vacuous sophomoric libertarian fairy tale rhetoric. Life is complex, geography is complex, and the economics of transportation are complex, so sometimes you have to take more than the introductory Econ 1 class to understand and deal with that complexity.

This is a pretty good deal for taxpayers compared the just the hidden political "costs" and sweetheart deals I've seen squirreled away in many highway contracts? Maybe this can work as a viable transportation asset under public lease to an operator, maybe not? If not, it's a nice bikeway route and some nice parkland for not too bad a price, either. And, this is more transparent, open, and a better deal than anything that is happening with the incompetent CHSRA, so chill.... It's a great line, a unique asset, and maybe it will be put to a good use?

EGBOK......



Subject Written By Date/Time (PST)
  State approves $14.2 Million for Santa Cruz Branch Brian Bergtold 01-19-2011 - 17:51
  Congratulations Howard 01-19-2011 - 18:13
  Re: Congratulations -- Maybe not... George Andrews 01-19-2011 - 19:34
  Re: Congratulations -- Maybe not... Brian Bergtold 01-19-2011 - 20:24
  Re: Congratulations -- Maybe not... T Judah 01-21-2011 - 12:16
  Re: Congratulations -- Maybe not... George Andrews 01-21-2011 - 14:39
  Union Pacific lowered the price Howard 01-19-2011 - 20:02
  Re: Union Pacific lowered the price Brian Bergtold 01-19-2011 - 20:29
  Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Howard 01-19-2011 - 21:23
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line J Mann 01-20-2011 - 08:16
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Sam Reeves 01-20-2011 - 09:18
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Freericks 01-20-2011 - 09:26
  Recreation Rail Should Start This Year Howard 01-20-2011 - 13:48
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Wizard 01-20-2011 - 09:57
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Here We Go Again 01-20-2011 - 11:16
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Sam Reeves 01-20-2011 - 11:43
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Robert 01-20-2011 - 13:54
  $5 Million Goes To Retrofitting And Repairs Of Bridges And Track Howard 01-20-2011 - 14:22
  Re: $5 Million Goes To Retrofitting And Repairs Of Bridges And Track Wizard 01-20-2011 - 19:45
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Here We Go Again 01-20-2011 - 14:49
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Wizard 01-20-2011 - 19:51
  Re: Future Looking Good For Those Who Want To Photograph The Line Here We Go Again 01-20-2011 - 20:17
  What Does Texas Have to Do With This? . 01-20-2011 - 15:56
  Re: What Does Texas Have to Do With This - Failure . 01-20-2011 - 16:28
  Re: What Does Texas Have to Do With This - Failure Tony J 01-20-2011 - 19:51
  Re: What Does Texas Have to Do With This - Failure bigdogstx 01-21-2011 - 01:14
  Re: What Does Texas Have to Do With This - Failure BigDogsTX 01-21-2011 - 01:26
  Re: Not a bad deal for this taxpayer? BOB2 01-21-2011 - 04:21
  Re: Not a bad deal for this taxpayer? George Andrews 01-21-2011 - 04:48
  Re: Not a bad deal for this taxpayer? M 01-21-2011 - 08:15
  Re: Not a bad deal for this taxpayer? George Andrews 01-21-2011 - 09:18
  Here's a thought William Boyd 01-21-2011 - 12:43
  Re: Not a bad deal for this taxpayer? mook 01-22-2011 - 18:34
  Re: Not a bad deal for this taxpayer? Mike Humphrey 01-23-2011 - 22:12


Go to: Message ListSearch
Subject: 
Your Name: 
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
 ********  ********        **  **     **   *******  
    **     **              **   **   **   **     ** 
    **     **              **    ** **    **        
    **     ******          **     ***     ********  
    **     **        **    **    ** **    **     ** 
    **     **        **    **   **   **   **     ** 
    **     ********   ******   **     **   *******  
This message board is maintained by:Altamont Press
You can send us an email at altamontpress1@gmail.com